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 03-20-2005, 15:53 Post: 108383
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What do you think of this deal???
John Deere 4410 with E/Power reverser $21229.00
430 loader with 73" heavy duty bucket 3895.00
47 Backhoe 16" bucket 7284.00

Tractor demo discount (25 hours) -2408.00

Less trade allowance for Kubota L245 DT -8000.00
with loader and hoe 800 hours just serviced

Bottom line $22,000.00






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 03-20-2005, 17:05 Post: 108394
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I think they should knock another 15-20% off that price. Without checking, it sounds like almost MSRP pricing less 5% or so on a demo machine that is being closed out. Often guys have bought at MSRP less 20% on current models. I have no idea what your trade is worth but maybe you can look it up on machinerylink dot com.






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 03-20-2005, 18:07 Post: 108398
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It looks to me like the dealer is playing the numbers game with you. $8,000 for the L245DT TLB is HIGH. Corrspondingly, he is selling the 4410 high as well. You need to get down to real numbers and find out what your L245 is really worth or better yet, sell it outright yourself and then pay cash or work you best deal on the 4410. The price for the 4410 is outrageous for an ePower Reverser. It might be more in line if it was an eHydro model but even then I think that price is too high with the eHydro on a used machine in my opinion.

I my opinion a 1982 L245DT with FEL & hoe might be worth somewhere is the $5,500 to $6,500 range if in good condition.

The 4410 is worth around $15,500

430 FEL w/HD bucket is worth around $3,200 to $3,400

The 47 hoe around $6,800

$25,700 for the 4410 package minus the $6,500
gets you to $19,200 out the door. Don't count on getting $6,500 for trade in on the L245. I traded my L245 in on my 4410 almost 3 years ago with a buddy selling me the machine. He gave me $4,500 for my L245 equipped with an L1200 FEL and L590 RFM which was not exactly a peach either and I thought he was giving me a gift.

Just wanted to give you some ideas and figures to work with and consider. I think you can do MUCH better than the deal you are currently being offered.
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 03-21-2005, 08:58 Post: 108443
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Thanks for your input. I figure the dealer is trying to show a high trade in number thus the high retail on the 4410.
He also quoted a price of $15435.00 with trade (-$8000.00)for a new 790 with 300 loader and #7 hoe. What do you think of the 790 compared with the 4410?






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 03-21-2005, 15:16 Post: 108460
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To be honest with you; if your L245DT is in pretty good shape, I don't see that much difference between it and the 790. The 790 is 27 hp. and the L245 I believe is 24? Both are gear shift basic design tractors. Both are 4WD. For all the money in interest and payments the 790 would cost you extra; I think I would keep the L245 and fix whatever may be wrong and be MUCH more money ahead. The L245 is a little cramped for operator space but so is the 790.

The 790 is not in the same class with the 4410. It is 35 hp. and has a lot more bells and whistles. It also has MUCH MUCH more operator station space than the 790. If you go the 4410 route; I would suggest getting the eHydro instead of the ePower Reverser.

Don't get me wrong; the 790 is a real fine & bullet proof machine but I think you have almost as much tractor with the L245 unless you step up to the 4410.

Just my opinion. Hope this helps you with your decision. Good luck!






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 03-21-2005, 15:42 Post: 108461
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There is a 4410 with 430 loader and hoe currently on ebay that you may want to consider if the reserve isn't too high. Often if they don't reach reserve and the seller is anxious, they will contact you if you've placed a bid.






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 03-22-2005, 08:15 Post: 108498
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I've also been shopping around and thinking of getting a new tractor. Think I'm leaning toward the new 20 series. The 3520 with 37HP replaces the 4410 with 35 HP. The 3520 also is turbocharged. The 300CX loader is a little stronger than the 430.






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 03-22-2005, 09:45 Post: 108510
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The extra 2 hp would be good, but I'm not a big fan of turbos. I've had a couple of turbos rebuilt and it is not cheap. More to go wrong and more money. When given the choice I would choose a naturally aspirated engine over a turbo anyday if the hp ratings and torque curves were similar.






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 03-22-2005, 09:58 Post: 108512
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In John Deere's new lineup the 3320 is 100 cubic inches with 32.5 gross HP and 25 HP at PTO with hydro. The 3520 has a 91.5 cubic inch motor with 37 gross HP with 30HP at PTO with hydro. This and above is all turbo. All 4120 through 4720 from 43 HP to 58 HP 4 cylinder models have turbo. All the new 20 series are rated to run #1 or #2 diesel.

The 4310 and 4410 had 91.3 cubic inches and were rated at 32 HP and 35 HP respectively with PTO HP with hydros at 25 and 28.

As was mentioned earlier, fuel efficiency and clean air are reasons for the turbos. Ken, I kinda agree with you about service, etc. I'm concerned about this and all the electronics and how these new units will run 20 years from now. My friend has a 9N and said it started right up last week, the first time he tried it since last fall. Simple seems more bulletproof.






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 03-22-2005, 10:15 Post: 108514
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Actually the 4410 engine is about 101 cubic inch.






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