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 05-09-2005, 11:50 Post: 110863
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Hard to believe that the guy got jail time for this.

"SEATTLE May 9, 2005 A woman who sued a neighbor after his dog mauled her cat to death has been awarded more than $45,000.

Retired teacher Paula Roemer's 12-year-old cat, Yofi, was attacked in her back yard in February 2004 by a chow belonging to her neighbor, Wallace Gray. The dog had repeatedly escaped in the past, according to the lawsuit.

Roemer, 71, said the death of the black and white cat left her with sleep disturbances, panic attacks and depression, causing her to begin smoking heavily. The amount awarded included $30,000 for the pet's special value and $15,000 for emotional distress.

Her lawyer, Adam P. Karp, announced the verdict by Judge Barbara L. Linde on Sunday and said the value accorded to the cat tied a record. In the previous case, a jury in California last year ordered a veterinarian to pay a dog owner $30,000 for the dog's "unique" value, plus $9,000 for veterinary bills.

Gray, who served three weeks in jail and three months under house arrest for an animal control violation, said an acquaintance was taking care of his dog at the time of the attack.

"This is absolutely crazy," Gray said. "I'm sorry she lost her cat, but I had no control over it." "







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 05-09-2005, 12:53 Post: 110866
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Boy am I glad I don't live out there....

Deputy Dog (see picture # 7) has a perfect 13 & 0 record, plus untold Squirrels and other varmin.

The little bugger would be even more expensive out there.

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 05-09-2005, 19:19 Post: 110879
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Yeah I had a dog like that too, several in fact. One killed 6 or 7 of the neighbors dogs and anything else she could catch. She would watch the neighbors dogs and let them get so far on out property that she could get to it before it could get home. Neighbor never said a word, he knew better. I had to dig a lot of holes.






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 05-09-2005, 20:28 Post: 110886
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I'm sorry guys but I see nothing glamorous to brag about how your dog runs wild and kills other dogs and cats.
Its a sick thread plain and simple...
I'm glad the deuce bag owner got jail because his dog was problematic and serves him right...owners need to control their dog or face the liability. Too many people have a careless attittude about their animals. And dont give a shit about other peoples pets or people for that matter.
I treat my pet like its family and would go to ANY LENGTH in protecting them.

Denwood,
You sound like a neighborhood bully...you had to dig lots of holes and the neighbor was too scared to say anything?
what comes around goes around....dont forget that fact..unbelievable

Real sick thread...

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 05-09-2005, 21:47 Post: 110891
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Please.... Back in the eighties and beyond every farm had a dog that ran free, many still do. It was their territory and if some loser didn't care about keeping their dogs on their postage stamps, what can you do, lock your dog up when it did nothing but protect the livestock. No one sicced the dog on anything and the dog never left the farm. The loser didn't say anything because he had no reason to, that is why he knew better. It is not that he was not a nice person, just a loser of a pet owner. I was 10 at the time, a huge bully, and the neighbor was a gearhead pothead his late 20's, that raced anything he could tinker on up and down the dirt road so fast I could never ride my bike there when he was home.
Duc, no offense taken, you obviously have the perspective of someone with a limited experience of life and the world around him. Not everyone comes from a postage stamp in a cute little middleclass neighborhood in a subdivision named after what used to be there before the houses, like Meadowbrook, Hickory Hollow or such. I keep my dog on my property and he does not run free unsupervised now that I am the adult. I have chastised 2 neighbors for letting their dogs run in the road or on my property, and like you care deeply for my pets and would dispatch any threat to them unless they were in the wrong. You are not the type of person who causes the problem, because you keep your dog in your control. From your capital letters, it seems you may go to the same lengths to protect you pets if they are threatened while under your control. I am sure your dog never gets out of you control, but accidents happen, the kid opens the door and out it goes. If it runs over to the neighbors and starts chasing the chickens, he has the right to kill it. What goes around comes around and I accept the fact that if my dog accidentally gets away, he may die, but I never negligently let him free.






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 05-09-2005, 22:13 Post: 110892
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 Man serves time when Dog Kills Cat

I don't do this very often, but I have to agree with Duc.

Sick thread.






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 05-09-2005, 22:47 Post: 110893
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I too agree with Ducati and particularly liked the statement..."I treat my pet like its family and would go to ANY LENGTH in protecting them." My sentiments exactly. In fact let me repeat, ANY LENGTH!






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 05-10-2005, 07:21 Post: 110897
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As I'm sure those who posted originally didnt intend to sound as bad as they did - Denwood's story definitely reversed and needed the most correction...a good thing

It comes down to the type of dog you own, and its propensity to be aggressive. If your dog stalks other animals and kills them, sounds like it should be put down and taken out of the cycle - I bet that will touch a nerve at home when its your own dog. Animal control should be involved here along with the police. I think more should be done to increase and enforce laws to make it criminal and more of a financial liability. Take everything the person owns finacially if they dont realize or refuse to accept responsibility for their dogs attacks especially when its a repeative offender...Aggressive dogs cause the problems, or dogs that turned aggressive from abuse...

accidents do happen and in those cases financial restitution usually comes first or is offered as an option. If its a weekly occurance then the owners at fault and should be held accountable (criminal & Financial) as well as the animal either being put down or placed in a shelter and/or relocated.
Sometimes folks who cant even take care of themselves have pets - and the cycle of neglect continues from childern to pets. That cycle has to be broken - so we should put down the owner Smile

Duc

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I was not aware we had any discord in the past but I'm glad
this is more aggreeable for both..Smile






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 05-10-2005, 08:03 Post: 110899
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Duc, I understand your comments and mostly agree with them.

However, you should bear in mind that our society is based on Justice and Universal Sufferage, equality if you will.

Justice is a sword that cuts two ways, so does equality, sometimes "What is good for the Goose, is good for the Gander" means the roasting pan.

If my dog, which BTW, is incredibly well trained, and does NOT run free, in fact he doesn't leave the property without being a foot or two from mine or my wife's left heel, kills a cat, feral or domestic, he does so because he percieves it as invading HIS TERRITORY.

Further, what makes cat owners so special ? A cat has some special permission to wantonly kill birds for sport and that's OK ? One one of my recent trips into the bush lot behind my house I found the remains of a wild turkey, freshly killed. The paw prints around it were unmistakably a cat's.

As you say, if my dog wandered, I would expect that some harm would come to him, but he doesn't wander, so I have no worry that way.

I was not bragging, just stating a fact. He is not prone to violence, in fact he has NEVER so much as gotten in a scuffle with another dog, he has chased a few away, but never anything more. Likewise with people, he makes a pretty terrible noise, and sure sounds like he wants a piece of them, but has not, and never has he done that beyond HIS own property.

As a closing word, I agree it's a sick thread, especially considering when I looked up the case in question I also read about a guy who got a free walk on a DUI charge "because he has a wife and kids to support".

Now we value cats above humans.

THAT is sick.






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 05-10-2005, 09:01 Post: 110902
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Let's also make a very important distinction here.... Many of us live in ares where kind, thoughtful folks "drop off" their pets and drive away. That is a guaranteed problem in the making.

Wisconsin, for example, is trying to figure out what to do with millions of feral cats, some of which have not been domesticated for generations. They are trying to declare open hunting season on them.

Pet owners rise up in indignation, but they overlook one salient fact: these animals are not pets anymore. Barnyard cats are not pets either. They are livestock, bred and used to control vermin.

The farm dog, like his sheepdog cousin, is there to protect the property and livestock against predation by other canines, be they wild, domesticated or somewhere in between.

If he can't do his job, he is essentially "fired" by the intruders and you have to find a bigger, tougher ( or in Murf's case smaller-tougher) dog to stand guard while you sleep.

Most of these rules go out the window in suburbia as there is no livestock and little property to protect. The problem occurs in the boundary areas where uneducated, "unemployed" pets wander into the "working" dog-eat-dog war zone.






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