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 12-08-2004, 12:51 Post: 101862
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OK gang, I need your opinion. My dad never bought me a gun...even though I own quite a few and also hunt (he never hunted). My oldest son just turned 9, and is very interested in going hunting with me, which I have promised he can start going with me next year. He hasn't asked for a gun, but I am considering buying him a Red Ryder BB gun, or possibly a pellet gun, or .22, all to be used with my supervision. A youth compound bow is also under consideration. Your thoughts, considering his age? We have plenty of land where there would be ample opportunity for proper use and instruction.






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 12-08-2004, 13:05 Post: 101863
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I learned on a .22 bolt action rifle and think that's a great way to go. Not much kick and it's not as intimidating as the bigger calibers, so it will lessen the tendency to flinch when learning trigger control. Plus ammo is cheap. All IMHO of course.






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 12-08-2004, 13:12 Post: 101865
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A .22 under supervision is a wonderful place to start. Just make sure the rifle fits him.

Used single shots can be found for about $75 and at that price it doesn't feel bad to trim the buttstock to youth size.






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 12-08-2004, 13:23 Post: 101868
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I agree, a 22 single shot is a good starter and relatively safe. One shot at a time makes a box of 50 last a long time and teaches them the importance of that first shot. A hunters safety course is a good idea too.






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 12-08-2004, 13:27 Post: 101869
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The reason I haven't started him on a .22 yet (I have a couple), is the stocks are too long for his eye relief, etc. That's why I considered the bb gun, but, if I remember, their accuracy stinks, and you can get frustrated easily...






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 12-08-2004, 13:28 Post: 101870
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I didn't get my 22 until i was 13.. I did get a simple daisy bb gun when i was 9/10. The small bb guns that aren't pump or CO2 powered can't kill you. The 22 can. Unfortunatly more people have been killed with a 22. Too many people think ahhh it's "Only a 22"..

I would suggest the bb gun first and tech him all the safety points and if you are pleased with his understanding in the need for safty, then look at the 22 for a birthday or next christmas.






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 12-08-2004, 13:35 Post: 101871
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Looks like I'm going to be the disenting opinion, again.

All the kids in our family started out with a really good quality air rifle.

It was, at first, used only under strict supervision, then as we got older, we were allowed semi-supervised target practice (in view at a distance).

Only when we reached the age where we could actually go hunting did we move up to a .22 rifle.

Years later I asked my dad about the logic. His answer was, as usual, faultless parent-thinking logic.

Like with anything else, he figured us kids would be bored or want to move up to the next thing up in short order, if he gave us a .22 in the first place there really wasn't anything safe to move us up into till we were bigger. By starting us with an air rifle a .22 was a natural safe step up. Besides, by starting with an air gun we had the opportunity to shoot indoors during the winter months.

I still have that air rifle, and it still drops squirrells from 30 or 40 yards out.

Best of luck.






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 12-08-2004, 14:18 Post: 101880
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My dad brought me through the progression of BB gun, air rifle, .22, shotgun, etc. Now I have an arsenal. At age 9 if you're considering a .22 he better be under 110% supervision and somewhat mature for his age. Also a trigger guard with no access to the key. Likewise with your stuff!!!

A BB gun has poor accuracy as was said and will discourage him. H &R and NEF (NewEngland Firearms) are a combined company owned by Marlin. They make a line of single shot guns both rifles and shotguns. I believe NEF has the youth pardner or something like that is designed to fit them. Remington, Marlin & Henry lever actions also have youth oriented models. NEF also have some combination guns where you can exchange barrels. NEF guns are very inexpensive but quite reliable/accurate. I purchased the .17 Mag. and am somewhat unhappy with black oxide finish instead of blueing because it can rust real easily. They also have some stainless models.

Most pellet guns have the ballastics of of a .22 short when pumped up fully or when using a gas propellant. My Sheridan pellet gun took 20 pumps to achieve this. When I first got it, could only pump it 3 or 4 times so that was a safety factor. I think you are at a crossroads somewhere between a pellet gun and a .22. I'd go with a pump up style pellet gun first and work closely with him. I'm thinking 10 1/2 to 12 is a better age group for a .22






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 12-08-2004, 14:40 Post: 101881
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no way man, paint ball gun all the way, that way if he does shoot anyone (or thing) its not going to require any real special attention...and the co2 cartridges are really fun...i'm thinking it would make him the envy of all the little boys around. (or at least around here he would)






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 12-08-2004, 14:57 Post: 101884
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Sorry chick. Totally wrong message.

Paint ball guns are designed to shoot people. If you want to teach a kid to shoot his friends that is perfect, but where do you go after that?






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