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 08-10-2003, 16:30 Post: 61453
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Folks,
I have just purchased a new place (21 acres) in upstate NY to move my growing family to. I have a FT job, but grew up on a "gentleman's" farm (chickens, goats, pigs, sheep, horses etc.) I have a 5 acre fenced field, and will soon be putting up a barn. My question is what to "farm" and I use the term loosely to generate some $$ to offset my toy purchases. So what generates the best $$/acre? I could go the pumpkin patch route, but over the weekend was thinking about sheep / Llamas for wool, but don't know the economics there of. Any suggestions on what generates the best returns?
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 08-10-2003, 16:36 Post: 61454
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Yes there is one good cash crop that has tremendous returns up here.

Several people try it every year. The lucky ones get to harvest it.

The unlucky ones get arrested.

Need I go farther.

BTW I am not a supporter of that crop.






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 08-10-2003, 16:55 Post: 61456
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Not quite the model I want to set for my impressionable munchkins Harvey! Don't question the absolute returns, just the risk adjusted ones might not be that great! ;^)






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 08-10-2003, 17:10 Post: 61461
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You are most correct Larry. I probably should not have posted that BUT it is a fact.

I have trouble grasping the concept of these people that do it knowing the areial survalance that is used to detect it. But they do it every year.

Anyway you asked a good question. I would say look at Organics check your market. There is a lot involved in order to use the term organic. But the return is there if you can stand the fussing with it.

If you wanna deal with them long haired things my neighbor does Lamas, sheeps, anything that grows long hair for spinning. She does all of her own wool and farms out a bundle of stuff. She has gotten so busy with it she hires help to do her Custom christmas Stockings.

If you want to know more about this offer you need to e-mail me private.

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 08-10-2003, 17:44 Post: 61462
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I don't know of anyone making $$ the lamas or sheep wool, but spring lamb fetch a fair dollar in the city. Goats milk make a good return also but I am not too sure I would like to milk all the goats.






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 08-10-2003, 18:01 Post: 61463
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harvey,
That is a very good cash crop. If you can pull of one crop you can retire. Last week, about a half a mile from my house the sheriff made a raid. They picked 13,000 plants.Smile






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 08-10-2003, 18:38 Post: 61465
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My wife's friend lives in NJ she does pretty well raising Alpacas and growing some fancy vegetables. She got in touch with NY restaraunt owners and sells them the fancy vegetables they feature on their menus. All things you typically can't find at the corner grocery but get charged an arm and a leg for when it's part of you entree' or appetizer at some chic restaurant.

If you further upstae perhaps their are markets for such items in popular ares like Saratoga/Albany/Buffalo/Rochester etc. She does not have large acreage devoted to this stuff but the prices are very high when compared to everyday items.

I can find out the items she grows if you like.






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 08-10-2003, 23:19 Post: 61479
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NOBODY. And I do mean nobody is smart enough to cash in on one crop and retire. It is called DOPE for a very good reason.

Sorry. Old passions. They do flare.






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 08-11-2003, 07:12 Post: 61488
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I honestly think one of the best steps you could make to finding out that answer is to go to your local farmers markets. Not the big city markets where they buy the left overs from the local produce merchants and re-sell them but the true organic type where you see the folks selling their own wares. I have had people write and say hay Chef, how do I know that ? well if you see items that are not indigenous to your area you will have a pretty good idea that you might be at the wrong market, also avoid those that have fleas as well. The next step is to decide if you want to market your wares direct or wholesale. Ie, if you raise sheep are you going to innoculate, sheer, and sell wool products on your property and is your property in a proximity to the sunday drivers ? Or do you just want to sell the wool. The same is true for marketing to restaurants. Do the NYC chefs or local up scale restaurants want fresher herbs or mini veg ? baby zuchhini, summer squash patty pans etc have all been rather Chic as of late. I like the pumpkin idea, but then halloween is a favorite holiday. A huge new trend in my area is sod, the caveat is you need a lot of equipment and acerage. My family had sheep farms for years. I would think this a far better bet than Llamas or Alpacas but I always wanted to keep a couple of those guys just for fun. Another idea is cut flowers at the farmers market, mums in the fall, sunflowers are always a good seller. Go see whats missing in your area. Most regions have a few small upscale towns where the folks have enough $ to pay extra for better quality and theese markets are really becomming very popular. Kindest Regards






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 08-11-2003, 07:36 Post: 61492
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Rochester already has a huge farm market covering the area. As Doc suggested, the turf farm, you would be competing with Batavia turf farms and that is huge now. There are some things to consider, is your ground good enough to grow some thing unique? Cranberries? Is it steep, maybe xmas tree's as they are easy to maintain and look good.






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