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 01-09-2006, 21:16 Post: 122506
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I bought some land last year and there is an old tractor on it. It is in pretty bad shape, but my dad thinks he wants it to fix it up. I cannot find out what it is though. My dad thinks its a 1954 IH. The serial # is 31525-S. I have been on different antique tractor sites, but cannot locate that #. It has the two front tires close and also had hydraulics. Any help with the serial # would be appreciated. Thanks.






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 01-13-2006, 09:22 Post: 122674
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Nissan, give us something more to go by. The number you included may not be a serial number.

If you could tell us more details, or a picture, we could figure out the model and tell you where to look for the serial number. Does it have frame rails separate from the engine? What size rear tires?

If you see numbers that are part of the castings, they may be casting codes. All major castings have them, they are in the format of month-day-year, with the year code being a letter; it is the date the part was cast. For instance 1-28-X would be January 28, 1952. Some letters are skipped, but basically A=1931 (or 1958) and Z=1954.

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 01-13-2006, 09:31 Post: 122676
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Bill is right I did some hunting after you posted it and did not have enough information to match it. Approximate HP would help.






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 01-13-2006, 09:32 Post: 122677
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I will do some more checking. I noticed all the numbers on the casting plates for the motor and frame. The number I got came off a small metal plate that was attached to the left clutch plate I believe. The number was the only thing stamped into this plate, everything else has worn off.






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 01-13-2006, 09:57 Post: 122679
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As was mentioned, the size of rear tire would help to identify. Bill's photo 1 is of an "A" and 15 is of a "C", does it appear something like either of these? Is the steering wheel shaft at an angle for horizontal. I take it you can't see an emblem at the side of the hood that says A,C,H,M or 200,300,400. Newer IHC tractors would have had a cream/white grille and/or side panel on the hood. Usually the paint can fade bad but some remnants remain of the color. You should see some sort of shadow where the emblems were to indicate Farmall/International Harvester, etc. Likewise across the front of the grille should be an insignia of some sort.






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 01-13-2006, 10:04 Post: 122680
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Glad to see the # do hickey was changed. I started another thread with a link to Farmalls.

The thread is still there with the link.

The serial # comes up as a 1040 H or a 1941 M the S at the end of the number relates to the type of transmission, I believe. At least that is how my old M comes up.






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 01-13-2006, 11:30 Post: 122691
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If I recall, S suffix is TA with 540 PTO provision. But not sure if that is attached to the serial number.

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 01-13-2006, 12:29 Post: 122694
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TA transmissions with Torque Amplifier would be a vertical lever about 2 ft. tall on the left side of the seat. In forward position it would give you the direct gear speed that you are in. When pulled back you would shift back about 1 1/2 gear ratio. The TA worked great if the tractor was beginning to get bogged down and engine overloaded. The shift increased torque/power while also reducing speed. I believe these were only on the 300 and 400's. I don't think the "M" or "H" models had this.






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 01-13-2006, 12:50 Post: 122698
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Yooperpete; The TA was used in the Super M TA for a couple years before the 400's came out. They bring big money today from collectors. the Super M TA and a 400 were basicly identical except for the tinwork. There are a ton of stories about Super H TA's being built and a few were sold. I've saw a couple, but the IH archives claim that a few were built but none were sold. Acording to them all of the H TA's are fakes built from a 300 center section put in a Super H chassis. Go to an IH collector club meeting and I gurantee you can start a lively discussion between belivers on both sides of the issue. Frank.






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 01-13-2006, 13:35 Post: 122701
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Hardwood:
Thanks for the insight about the M's, learn something new everyday. I was too young when my dad sold the "M" and got the 400, so I don't remember much about the "M". I started driving at about 7 or 8 but that was 50 years ago. My memory isn't so good no more. We had wide front ends on both. I thought there were quite a few more differences between them. More power, stirring linkage at the tie rods ends, quick-hitch, refined hydraulics as well as the tin.






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