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 01-13-2010, 08:40 Post: 168013
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If the fuel is already gelled, will adding a fuel addivtive help? Will have to let it warm up first and then add the additive to prevent it from happing again?






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 01-13-2010, 09:39 Post: 168016
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No, there are special additives, the first that comes to mind is "PowerService 911" (bright red bottle) that will quickly melt right through the gelled fuel.

Heat will of course do the trick too, but as soon as it cools down the problem will come right back.

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 01-13-2010, 09:45 Post: 168017
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ok, that is what I needed to know, I will get the powerservice 911. I saw some people talking about this and could purchase it at walmart?
thanks for your help

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 01-13-2010, 10:16 Post: 168019
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Walmart, any farm store, auto parts store, truck stop, etc. Once you get the tractor running, I'd drain the wet fuel and replace with fresh. This time make sure to add an anti-gel additive. There are several brands, I personally use Power Service year-round. It's marketed in three formulas: Red jug = emergency anti-gel, White jug = winter (with anti-gel), Silver jug = spring/summer/fall (no anti-gel).

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 01-13-2010, 10:18 Post: 168020
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Thanks so much, I feel better about this now, I was a little worried.






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 01-13-2010, 14:08 Post: 168021
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 what if the fuel is already gelled

Simply dumping it in the tank will not "melt" or thaw the lines--you need to have flow for that. I'm pretty sure the red jug I have said remove the filter and fill it 50/50 with it and fuel then reinstall. I feel the way they worded it they are implying that only the filter is froze up and not the lines or anything else except the filter.

BTW, I tried just the filter idea on my Ram and it didn't work--the lines were still froze. The truck had to be tented with plastic and warmed with a heater for half a day. (Snow and ice from plowing the night before was packed up under the chassis which all had to melt)






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 01-13-2010, 15:19 Post: 168025
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Probably some limited profanity would be justified for starters, but I've dumped the filters and put the white jug stuff in. I didn't have any 911 handy, and it did work. This was on a Case 1070 farm tractor, then dumped the rest of the jug in the fuel tank. It kind of coughed a nd gagged the rest of the day till things cleared out.






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 01-13-2010, 16:18 Post: 168026
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The few times we've had that problem it was colder than a politicians heart and not very nice weather for working outside, especially not at anything that involved cold steel against bare hands, let alone hands soaked in diesel!

The method my fleet maintenance guy used was, pour PowerService 911 into fuel tank, open water separator valve. If no fuel runs out, apply an air hose with a rag wrapped around it to the filler opening till a good amount of fuel runs out. Close water separator valve. Start engine, with WD-40 (or ether if need be) and let it run at a slightly elevated idle for a while.

Once the engine is running the pump(s) will circulate fuel via the return line back to the tank and distribute the 911 around pretty good.

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 01-14-2010, 03:48 Post: 168033
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Thanks everyone, I appreciate all the knowledge, what a great place!

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 01-14-2010, 16:29 Post: 168049
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Murf: "it was colder than a politicians heart "

Boy that is such a good term. Never had heard it. Do you think this antigell for diesel fuel would work with them?
Find the instrustions you give makes sense for them also.

You know some place would kick me off for that. Long Live TP.






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