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Chris, it sounds like you have a less than perfect pressure release valve on the your 3pth. It may just be that there is some debris there, or that there has been in the past which has scored the valve bore and is causing a leak through the valve. the easiest way to check is to raise the 3pth to full height with some weight on it and shut down the machine that way, measure to a known point on the implement, come back later (a day or two) and measure again to see if it is lowering itself. All things being ok, it should be right where you left it. If not start by changing just the filter, then a few (10-20?) hours later change the fluid & filter. This should get any foreign particles out of the system and (hopefully) fix the problem.

3 Pt Hydraulics Surging
John Deere Tractors
Replies 15 Post by Murf

Don,
I have 96 acres that I do alot of the same things that you described. Last spring I bought a Kubota L-3010 with 4wd, Hydro, front loader, 6' bush hog, 7' rear blade. Ihave been extremely happy withthis tractor...I have done everything I have wanted so far and enjoyed the heck out of it. I look for jobs to do that involve the tractor (even apple picking). I would highly recomend 4wd and Hydrostatic trans. You will appreciate it very much and it will hold its value at time of resale. Good luck!

Which tractor
Operating and Attachments
Replies 3 Post by Doug Kimmey

You don't really give enough info for anything but a guess-timate, but assuming you mean they are slow ALL the time, it may be that you have marginally enough pump volume to run the amount of cylinder you have, or that you have a restricting orifice installed to stop or reduce cavitation in the system. Cavitation is when air bubbles are created in the system because it easier to suck air from the reservoir than to move the hyd. fluid at the flow rate the system is asking for it, the result is a 'sponginess' to the hydraulics, or may appear as a 'weakness' such as a loader that will not lift the front wheels of the tractor off the ground. Best of luck.

Slow hydraulics
Tractor Projects
Replies 3 Post by Murf

How did you get your 4310 to 11,000 lbs?

Tires for boggy ground
Parts and Repair
Replies 9 Post by Paul

JOHN DEERE DEALER (OXFORD PA)
IN AN EARLIER POST I HAD STATED THAT JOHN DEERE CO HAD A PIP PROGRAM IN EFFECT FOR 4000 SERIES TRACTORS REGARDING FRONT AXLE SCUFFING. AFTER A CONVERSATION WITH THE AUGUSTA PRODUCT MANAGER TODAY HE CORRECTED MY ERRORS.
IT SEEMS THAT DEERE'S OFFICIAL POSITION REGARDING "TURF SCUFFING" IS THAT IT WILL BE HANDLED ON A INDIVIDUAL COMPLAINT BASIS WITH THE CUSTOMER,THE DEALER, AND THE DEERE TERRITORY MANAGER EVALUATING THE TRACTOR'S PERFORMANCE AND THE "SCUFFING ISSUE".
ALSO THE NEW AXLE DESIGN IS ONLY CONCENTRATING ON 4WD UNITS AND WILL NOT EFFECT ANY 2WD UNITS SOLD.
ALSO I HAD STATED THAT DEERE & CO. HAD ANNOUNCED A PIP PROGRAM WHICH I HAVE FOUND OUT IS NOT CORRECT, ONCE AGAIN EACH CASE WILL BE REVEIEWED INDIVIDUALLY.
THE SCUFFING ISSUE IS STILL NOT TIRE SPECIFIC AND EACH CASE WILL BE REVIEWED INDIVIDUALLY, HOWEVER I WILL NOTE THAT (R4) & (R1) TIRES WILL TRADITIONALLY SCUFF TURF AT EXTREME TURNS WHERE AS THIS MAY NOT BE THE CASE WITH (R3) DEPENDING ON THE TURF,MOISTURE IN GROUND, AND THE RATE OF TRAVEL (SPEED)

I APPOLOGIZE TO ANY OWNERS,DEALERS,OR JOHN DEERE PERSONNEL AFFECTED BY MY EARLIER POST. IT IS NOT MY NATURE TO REPORT FALSE INFORMATION REGARDING THE PRODUCT OR POSITION OF DEERE & CO.

THIS WILL BE IN EFFECT MY LAST POSTING TO THIS THREAD OR ANY OTHER REGARDING THE SCUFFING ISSUE OR ANY OTHERS CONCERNING DEERE PRODUCT.

THE POSTS I HAVE MADE HAVE BEEN ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND DEERE & CO. AND I HAVE POSTED INFORMATION BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AND LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF THE ISSUES.

IN CLOSING, I SELL THE BEST PRODUCT MADE EVERYDAY.
I HAVE FOR CLOSE TO ELEVEN YEARS.
I LOVE JOHN DEERE, AND WILL REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE PRODUCT AND THE COMPANY.
I WISH ALL OF YOU GOOD LUCK.

Deere refusing to deal with tire scuffing problem
John Deere Tractors
Replies 53 Post by scott slavin

Thanks for the update from Wa. I called tractors4u.com and while they no longer quote NH (they are not going to have anymore), they said a good price on NH 1720 would be $13,500. Therefore, $3500 for a loader puts them at $17,000. I still will try to get wheel weights, block heater, something thrown in by the Dealer. I feel they are still making a couple of buck$. Also, waithing for one more quote.

PRICE CHECK ON NH
New Holland Tractors
Replies 7 Post by djholm

Living in the mountains, I think about slope stability a lot. Bottom line is that you need a heavy implement carried as low as you can, as much width on the tires as you can get, and lots of weight added to the tires. I think that everyone agrees that wheel weights are preferable, but they sure are expensive. Some people have made their own....very admirable..but most folks just add fluid. Fluid is cheap, more corrosive than air no matter which fluid you use, and at anything less than 100% fill has a CG very slightly below the center of the axle. This shifted CG is good, but unfortunately it is slight. The fluid also affects road speed more than the wheel weight do...Which can make it a bit touchy to drive in road gear until you get the hang of it. Wheel weights also affect road speed travel, but to a much lesser extent. Their CG is at the centerline of the axle.
Some people have said that turf tires are more stable than Ag type on hill sides, and I think that I agree with this. On some hills I'll carry a bit of sand in the bucket and keep the bucket right on the ground as I turn uphill. And I'm real careful lifting the bucket on a hill. In spite of my caution, I've turned one over.

Liquid in tires wheel weights and ballast
Tractor Projects
Replies 4 Post by Roger L.

Do you have any photos you can post or send to my e-mail address?
Thanks,
Dave

FORD 1220 For Sale
New Holland Tractors
Replies 3 Post by David Chapman

Ritchie is no longer a NH dealer

new holland tc25d price
New Holland Tractors
Replies 7 Post by Chris Stone

Just a note on this one, I had contacted Ritchie after talking with a local dealer. I was more curious than anything else. My local dealer had shown me his cost and added $500.00. So it was with some surprise that Ritchie's cost before shipping was about $500.00 more than my local dealer.

Ritchie Tractor Online Quotes
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Replies 4 Post by Jerri Neese

Guess that you got your procedure from an owner's manual, and the adjustment is for valve lash. Have to do it myself this spring.

My 1710 has a different engine. However, my owner's manual describes valve adjustment procedures like I remember for old cars. The rocker arm cover is removed. A feeler gauge of the specified thickness is placed between the valve and rocker arm while the engine is idling (and cold). Adjusments are made as required. The idea is to move the feeler gauge back and forth. The adjustment is correct when a gentle tug can be felt when the rocker arm contacts the gauge.

What you're doing sounds more complicated. There's perhaps something about the 1725 engine that prevents use of this time honoured method.

I don't know much about diesel engines, YET, so my comments may not be worthwhile. Removing the glow plugs sounds like a way to release compression. Guess you need to set some marks to TDC or something like that. I used to do that on cars by having somebody watch the marks while one or two others rocked the car against the compression. Don't know if that would work with high compression diesel engines, but it might be easier than taking things apart

Regarding head bolts: I wouldn't re-torque them unless called for in a specific maintenance procedure, or maybe if the engine had over-heated at some time. I think that the torque specs given for engine assembly allows for gasket seating and engine break in. At least on gas engines, head torque is fairly stable, and there's little reason to mess with it unless a problem exists. Well, my wife's car did blow a head gasket recently, but that's a stupid iron block/aluminum headed engine.

new holland 1725 valve adjustment
Parts and Repair
Replies 4 Post by TomG

Also, dual wheels are good when trenching - they will let you ride across wide holes where two trenches intersect. Sometimes a single wheel will fall in and the tractor will not pull itself out. They also help when mowing with the contour on hillsides - sometimes you have to slightly lift the mower with the front hitch because the mowers often dig in and you wind up pushing the mower into the ground. Lifting the mower slightly lets the machine run freely and the duals keep it from "crabbing" or trying to turn downhill due to the weight of the mower out in front. This way you are not constantly correcting the down hill tendency with the steering. Duals on an articulated frame do not destroy your turning radius the way they do with front or rear steering.

Steiner and Ventrac Articulated 4WD Tractors
Articulated Tractors
Replies 44 Post by Richard Harburn

Our southwest Missouri dealer puts the 790 in a package deal. You get the tractor, loader, 5' medium duty JD bushhog and heavy duty 16' tandem axle trailer for $15695. Breaking this down, 790=$10995, model 70 loader=2900, bushhog= ~$600 and trailer=1200. If you visit www.deere.com you can find information on the 90-series tractors (790 & 990). I believe they show an MSRP of $10995. Good luck with your purchase. Besides the JD, we are considering New Holland's BOOMER line. I think it will depend upon the dealer in the end.

Am I making the right choice John Deere 790
John Deere Tractors
Replies 11 Post by Scott Stewart

The 1843SD is a 3 cyl. 23 hp, PTO 19 hp. I've had it for about three months and have used it for bushogging and pulling some logs off my land. It has performed very well so far. Runs like a top. Got my filters at NAPA.
Mike Casper

Shibaura SD1843- filters
Shibaura
Replies 7 Post by Mike Casper

Chuck--Although I cannot quote the JD bulletin (it is on my desk buried somewhere), JD did change the time for the first hydrostatic transmission fluid change down to 50 hours. The only reason that I am aware of this was a verbal notification from my dealer. If interested, the total cost of JD materials was about $120. It would be worth your while to check with your dealer about this mopdification of the service interval as stated in the manual. After finding about a teaspoon of metal filings on the suction screen, I concur with JD about this revised service interval. (IF I can find the copy of the JD service bulletin in question, I'll post its number.) As an editorial comment--it would be nice if JD would post such bulletins on their Web site for customers to view as they do on their DTAC Web site for their dealers. I fully appreciate my dealer that thinks enough of me, as a customer, to let me know of such a change.

JD 4400 HST Maintenance Frequency
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Replies 11 Post by Mike S.

I own 40 acres mostly wooded,W/march,creek,some open field.I need to do some fence work,will need mower,gardening@.5 acre,digging,1500'drive, located in northern WI.

tractor info
John Deere Tractors
Replies 1 Post by Steve Sutton

Tom is right, the "Boomers" are basiclly Shibaura motors and running gear just like the Ford/New Holland 1200 through 2100's since 1980's. NH had a TC35D at the National Farm Machinary Show in Louisville that ends today.They are launching 3 more higher horsepower series;35,40 and 45 alias TC35,TC40 and TC45. The TC35D,TC40D andTC45D are the hydrostatic versions(the'D' doesn't stand for deisel).The 35 hp. is 3 cyl., the 40 and 45 4 cylinder.These new Boomers are evolved 1920 and 2120's. These tractors all had independent power steering pumps."Supersteer" is an optional 4 mfwd axle that cuts the turning radius by turning the axle as well as turning the wheels.
At the show JD did not have the the new front wheel drive axles on the displayed 4200.

New Holland Engine
John Deere Tractors
Replies 5 Post by RCH

More congrats, Carl. Hope you are enjoying your new orange terror! It is also nice to hear someone say that they will spend the extra dollars to support a local business. I believe in giving the local businesses first shot at my dollars, and last chance to match a better offer. Often they can't quite match the best price dollar-wise, but that doesn't bother me. I'm not going to nickle and dime them out of a livehood. They know that I'm going to choose their business over some stranger. There are a lot of advantages that go with having a local dealer available.

kubota 2710 size
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Replies 21 Post by Roger L.

Just last week I was quoted $14,360 for TC29D, 4wd, r4's. I'm in Northeastern Ohio.

Price check on TC25D TC29D TC33D
New Holland Tractors
Replies 4 Post by Dave Champagne

Bob I purchased a JD 4200 HST 4wd, turf tires,mid PTO for 14000.00 I also got the 420 loader for 2400.00 and a JD 272 72" rear mower for 2100.00 for a total of 18500.00

Price Check on JD 4200 and 4300
John Deere Tractors
Replies 4 Post by CHRIS