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 | Frustrated
Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3 New Hampshire 
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2004-09-18 96763
I have a Cub Cadet 7275 (diesel) that has been having starter problems for months. Sometimes does and sometimes just clicks. Lately doesn't do anything. The battery, starter motor, solenoid are all good. I just replaced the ignition switch and did some testing. 14 V on the hot wire, but when turning the key to right for first stop, the V out (to the fuel pump I think) goes to only a few volts and when turning past the spring for the solenoid, the voltage is only about 6 V. It seems there is a heavy draw somewhere that drops the soleniod voltage below operating level. Does anyone have ideas on this problem?
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| denwood
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 542 Quarryville PA 
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2004-09-18 96764
If possible disconnect all wires from the switch and leave the hot in. Then test each output. If they are not fine, it is the switch. If they are fine, re-attach each wire individually and test as you go. My tractor is having the same problem right now and for the past 5 years. It is a bad ignition switch that I just don't fix. Clicking it 3-4 times seems to work. ....
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 | BillMullens
Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 649 Central West Virginia
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2004-09-18 96766
I saw a similar problem when working on a friend's pickup truck once. It was less than two years old. It wouldn't crank sometimes; we replaced the battery and it didn't help. I was getting ready to replace the starter when I noticed one of the battery cables was corroded. We stripped some of the insulation back, and the corrosion ran down the cable. It was ruined. Replacing the cable fixed it.
Good luck,
Bill ....
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| DaveM
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 67 Southern Maine
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2004-09-19 96818
Bill, look back at starting issues with the Cub. There has been other folks write in with a problem, and I believe it was Ted at Abbeywoods that told about a relay (?) that needed to be added or something like that. I have a 7234 and have had a similar problem but it hasn't been that big a deal for me yet. It has been talked about a few times on this forum. Let us know how it turns out. ....
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| Larry Lutz
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 23 St.Davids Ontario
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2004-09-20 96922
You need a relay wired in between the ignition switch & the starter ted at abbeywoods told me about it
I have had NO problem in 2 yrs since I installed the relay & I had the exact same problem you are experiencing.
He told me there was a recall but Cub supposedly knows about it even though the dealer sold me the relay ....
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| Frustrated
Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3 New Hampshire
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2004-09-21 96945
I am interested in the relay approach, but am not familiar with Abbeywoods. Is this an online store? ....
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 | yooperpete
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1413 Northern Michigan 
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2004-09-21 96947
I have the same problem with my 7275. It was a minor annoyance for a while and have left it. Now I'm having lots more difficulties. It used to start when I would jiggle the rear and mid PTO handles while turning the key. Now I've found that moving the range selector handle while in Neutral towards me and hitting the stop will get it going. I've always assumed that it has something to do with the electrical interlocks (transmission neutral position and PTO off). Beneathe the PTO lever mechanisms going into the rear end housing is an electrical device. I think this may be it. I'm going to talk to my dealer.
PS: Abbeywoods is one of the tractorpoint members. ....
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| Larry Lutz
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 23 St.Davids Ontario
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2004-09-21 96950
No abbeywoods was a gentleman on this forum who knew much about Cubs
I went through new cables had the starter tested had the safety switches tested etc & since the relay was installed it has never failed.It has something to do with the relay providing more currant directly to the starter
You can email me at larrywal1atyahoo.com I think I still have the installation diagram & the part # for the relay
Hope this helps ....
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| farmer
Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18 Lewiston, MN
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2004-09-29 97365
I am still having this problem with my Cub 7275. It will start ok about 50% of the time. Other times, when I turn the ignition key on - I just hear a 'click'. I have tried cleaning the batter connections - battery is good. I have not tried the new relay as of yet.
I suspect that it is something to do with the safety switches in the shifting levers?
What I find works is taking (temporary fix) is taking my portable battery and hooking it up to the solenoid on the starter. I then turn the starter key - the solenoid just spins. I then shut the starter key off - unhook the portable battery and then jump on and start the tractor - has been working for me - but is a pain since I have a loader on the tractor.
I have also visited with the dealer and he really does not know anything about this problem...
I too - would like to know if someone has a solid solution to this problem.
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| farmer
Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18 Lewiston, MN
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2004-09-29 97366
I opened an issue about this - I believe that it is the same issue about 6 issues below -
Re: Cub Cadet 7274 - key start engaging ....
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| Frustrated
Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3 New Hampshire
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2004-09-29 97370
Since I started this recent thread, I owe an update. I obtained a wiring diagram from the dealer and did some continuity and voltage checking. I found one crimped wire connector on the hot feed from the starter solenoid to the ignition switch that was funky and replaced that. I also replaced the positive battery cable to the starter solenoid. After that, it started right up. After using for a few hours, it wouldn't start again - no click, no noise. I found that the PTO safety switches were not closed and no power was getting from ignition to the starter solenoid. This can easily be checked by a volt meter connecting to the stab-on wire connector on the top of the solenoid. I had already bypassed the neutral safety and may do the same with the PTO safties or readjust them. Now, it will start or at least I get the solenoid click. However, I think the starter needs attention - maybe new brushes. I plan to take it off and have it checked before cold weather. ....
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| yooperpete
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1413 Northern Michigan
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2004-09-29 97372
I contacted Larry Lutz this morning via email after he posted on this thread about his fix and have requested info. I spoke with my dealer this a.m. He is familiar with the problem and to his knowledge Cub Cadet does not have a recommended fix. His point is that Cub uses the voltage running through the ignition key to operate all of the safety switches and after it has passed through all of these, it must then finally trigger the starter solenoid. If conditions aren't perfect, you can get a substantial voltage drop and with the lack of power all you get is a clicking noise. The fix that Larry Lutz and Abbeywoods mentioned solves this, since a relay is placed in the circuit after going through the safety switches. A lower voltage can trigger the relay but then it gives full battery voltage to the starter solenoid.
My dealer is mainly AG related for Case/IH equipment and sells Cub Cadet and Toro lawn equipment. The service guy says that combines have a relay system as is suggested for this fix. Combines have long wires and lots of circuits that cannot be run directly off of the key.
I would not recommend by passing the safety switches, particularly the PTO's. That is too dangerous. I know too many people with missing fingers, hands and arms. You think it will never happen to you but in an instant, it can and does happen even to the best of us. You life will never be the same again! ....
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| Larry Lutz
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 23 St.Davids Ontario
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2004-09-29 97399
For those of you interested I HAVE FOUND my digram along with the part number SO I will scan it & if you want me to try to send it to you email larrywal1 at yahoo .com & I will send you info
If I could do it anyone can
Hope this helps ....
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