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jd60kid
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2004-06-23          89210


I read on the Deere website that the rear lifting compacity on the 790 is only 815 pounds is that enough just for brush hogging????



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2004-06-23          89213


I use an MX-5 with my 790 without problems. Technically, it's slightly heavier than the 790's rated for, but it has no problems lifting it. I do make it a point to keep it up in the air as little as possible, just to be on the safe side. Whatever cutter you use, be sure you've got enough front weights (I have 240 pounds) or you'll be in for an exciting ride when you go over a mound. ....


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2004-06-23          89215


I have and use the LX5 cutter and that is fine for this tractor. ....


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2004-06-23          89242


The comparable machine by Kubota is the L3400 3 pt lift capacity is 1998lbs. at lift point and 1435lbs. 24 behind lift point. ....


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2004-06-23          89244


If you have a front end loader you will not have any problem with a 5 foot cutter on the 790 and no weighting of the front is needed. If not just ballast the front as you would any other tractor. The "790 rear lift capacity" converstaion has been beaten to death, here's my take:

The 790 will lift any implement that an under 3000lbs./24 PTO horsepower tractor can safely run. Would it be nice to lift more, sure..... but I think that similarly weighted tractors that are rated to lift 1500lbs. really can't be used safely with that much weight on the 3 pt. Think about it, how is a tractor that weighs in the neighborhood of 3000lbs functioning with 1500lbs. hanging out behind it???? Also I have never read a post where 790 owners couldn't use an implement solely because it weighed too much, if the implement is that big it probably belongs on a 30+ PTO horsepower tractor that weighs much more. I have also read posts where the JD ratings were very conservative and 790 owners were lifting around 1000lbs. 24" behind the lift arm ends.

If you like the 790 get it. If a tractor of about 25 PTO horsepower is what your work requires, it will do what you need, the rest is just numbers. ....


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2004-06-23          89247


dear f350lawnman i dont have the premium account w/ tractor point so if its not too much trouble could you email me your post thanks alot. My Email address is in my profile

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2004-06-25          89359


I need to be able to lift at least 1200lb round bales with my 790 on the three point. Is there anyway that this tractor would be able to do this. The guys at John Deere in Kalispell Mt told me it could lift up to 2000 lbs from the rear, I thought this was a little much but I believed them. I am new at this game. I tried to lift an 800 lb bale and there was no hope. What are you guys opinion. Thanks Mont


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2004-06-26          89371


The ratings and physical capacity are different. The ratings include a safety factor that's intended to provide adequate stability. The 790 is a light-weight tractor and its stability is limiting when big weight is up no matter how much power the 3ph has. I think there's a problem if a JD rep gave a weight that's different than the rated weight.

It may well lift 2,000 lbs. at the pins but the rated weight is normally 2' behind the pins and also includes the safety factor. It depends on the diameter of the bales but an 800 lbs. bale may be centered further back than 2' and that would take more power to lift. My impression is that a 790 is not well suited for 1200 lbs. bales on the 3ph. ....


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2004-06-26          89374


From a safety standpoint don't do it. The bulk of the weight of a big round is way too far behind the 3pt. plus you're raising the center of gravity of the whole unit, (tractor+ bale) to a height that makes a narrow tread tractor pretty tippy. Just my thoughts. Frank. ....


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2004-06-27          89436


If moving 1200lb bales is part of your needs I don't think anything but the largest and certainly heaviest CUTs are what you need. Lift capacity is meaningless if you are doing a wheelie or flipped on yer' side". If I needed the manuevability of a CUT for my other chores, I would get a big old used tractor w/o FEL (so it's cheaper) and use it for bale moving. ....


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2004-06-27          89440


The 790 is not the ideal bale mover, I have tried it with mine. Not at all safe, you must get a machine with more weight. I'm going to be trading mine in for something to do that same chore. looked a a 5105 then went back to a 4710 now I'm real close to closing in on a used 5205 the middle of this week. It's a 2000 model with a 521 loader and a 129 hrs. on it for 21000. that's almost one of the smallest models for moving bales around in a safe manner. plus I want the extra hp that model offers.at 48 pto hp it can handle some of the smaller balers, and give me more power for working on my food plots. Forgot to mention that the 790 is a great compact machine, been real happy with mine,It's just time for me to step up to a real utitily tractor. ....


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2004-06-27          89441


My L3000 dt Kubota would lift a Salsco 824 hydraulic feed chipper and lug it through the woods no problem. The chipper weighed 675 lbs. and it was rather long so most of it was probably behind the 24" and of course all of it was behind the 3pth pins. My land grade is 1 foot drop in 5 at best, most is steeper. I shopped the numbers before I bought it, the 790 didn't compare in any way, but was more money. Nothing against Deere, I own one, but I like getting my moneys worth. ....


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2004-06-27          89471


Carrying a 675 pound chipper really isn't a good comparison for 1200lb bales. Your not safe on your Kubota 3000 or any similar sized tractor. Moving bales isn't a once in a while task, rain, mud, snow, ice you still have to feed the animals so a tractor that is maxed out isn't a good choice. Even "real farmers" with "real tractors" have to be careful, so I don't see how a small CUT isn't going to eventually catch up with you if you move 1200lb. bales frequently.

JMHO, but it seems like a used "big" tractor or a utility tractor is a better alternative if bale moving is your need. ....


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2004-06-27          89472


Got to agree F350 ....


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2004-06-27          89475


Ditto. ....


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2004-06-27          89477


So we all agree...guess that's why I don't feed round bales. :) ....


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2004-06-28          89482


MY old 790 lifted a brush hog no problem however, it didnt like lifting my TR3 rake which is roughly 800 lbs. The 790 is a smaller scale cut with an oversized engine. The 790 is defintly not comparible to the L3400 Kubota. The L3400 would out lift & out perform the 790 in a second. Thats like camparing a ford ranger to a F - 350. ....


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