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Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 8 NJ 
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2004-05-17 86237
Hi All,
Very new to this, read a bunch of posts, some research online.
I have 1 acre, 50% lawn the rest is wooded w/rocks & some wet areas. I need to do a good bit of landscaping, filling, grading, planting 20 6 ft pine trees, trenching for rock walls and such. Something small but powerful enough to do the work and move about 30 yards of topsoil.
I need a loader and backhoe. The models I'm considering are the Kubota BX23 or B2410, Kioti CK25 (HST?), NH Boomer TD24DA, JD 4210 or 790(i couldn't find a smaller model that takes a backhoe).
Price is somewhat of an issue and Kubota is offering 3yr 0% interest.
Thank You,
Frank
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 | kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon 
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2004-05-17 86239
The JD 4110/4115 can take the new model 46 backhoe. ....
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| fs37265
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2004-05-17 86243
I meant to say that I need a tractor with a backhoe and a loader and am considering the 4 brands/models I listed and wanted some feedback on how they compare or what people think of these models. Are they big enough for the job, too big ?
Thanks all in advance for your advice. ....
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| jpr62902
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 21 Lebanon, Ohio
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2004-05-18 86300
I have a BX22 and it has done all that you described in your post. If you're going to be moving trees with the FEL, I recommend a set of pallet forks. I tried using a tow rope and it left the tractor center of gravity too high and I almost tipped the thing over. ....
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 | beagle
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1333 Michigan 
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2004-05-18 86319
You may look at the Kubota B7610. Same as the B2410 with a few features removed for pricing. I really liked the NH TD24 when I was searching, but couldn't get a good price on it. With the size property you will be working, I think you would find the CK25 a little large and heavy, although they are really nice machines.
I would say B7610, NH TD24, or 4115. They are all nice machines, but have a lot of differences in how they feal to operate. Make sure you try them all, then find out which one fits you best. Sounds like you are going about this right, figure out what you need to do, then pick the machine that will handle the chores and toys, ( I mean implements), the best. Have fun ....
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| fs37265
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2004-05-18 86330
Thanks All, its a big purchase and you have been a great help! ....
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2004-05-18 86331
And don't forget that good dealer support is VERY important. If you get bad vibes from a dealer that is a great reason to cross them off your list, even if they are the only dealer for a specific brand in your area. ....
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| fs37265
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2004-05-20 86475
I've priced out and compared the 4110($23k), TC21DA($22k), CK20HST($17k, no sales tax &1k rebate=16k), B7510($18k) & BX23($15k). Gonna look at the CK20HST and BX23 this Sat. Can't see any reason I wouldn't choose the Kioti over the Kubota since they are in different classes(sub & compact) for same bucks.
Also, the Kioti dealer is advising indi tires instead of turf tires, says he's had a few complaints about lack of traction. I need both lawn and rocky woods use, any thoughts on this? Thx! ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-05-20 86482
Check the wheel base numbers.... the CK20 is a BX with bigger tires and more weight.... that's not bad, just that they are closer than you might think.
If you are going "off road" R-4's are not a bad choice. Have the dealer install inner tubes in them so you can reduce the pressure without have them fall off the rim.
Edit: If I were covering rocky ground I would go with the biggest tires I could find. ....
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| beagle
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1333 Michigan
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2004-05-21 86491
Are you sure about the size comparison of the CK20. Really nice tractor, but it is actually bigger than the B-Series Kubota. ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-05-21 86503
My mistake, I was thinking of the LB 1914.
Wheelbase numbers: BX= 55 inches, LB1914= 56" and CK 20= 58".
The BX has the most HP at 22.
B series Kubotas have wheelbases up to 65+ inches. ....
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| beagle
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1333 Michigan
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2004-05-21 86511
Yep, but I think those wheel base numbers are a little mis-leading. Get on and drive a CK20, it is a good sized machine. The wheelbase may be shorter, but it has a large feel to it and is heavier than the B's. ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-05-21 86513
The CK 20 is a stout little crittter.
The wheelbase numbers will help the ride in the woods. I have had 55, 59 and now 65 inch wheelbase tractors. The 65 incher is by far the best ride on rough ground. ....
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