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2004-10-11          98074



When going up a hill and the engine conks out you go sailing to the bottom when you shift into neutral to restart it.

Really scary!

Has this ever happened to you?

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2004-10-11          98077

How did the engine "conk out?"

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2004-10-11          98088

How did the engine "conk out?"
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Some times when going forward when I hit the pedal to back up
it will belch a puff or 2 of black smoke and sputter a time or two then resume running fine.

However a couple of times it didn't recover but conked out instead.



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2004-10-11          98094

What RPM's are you running?

You need to crank that thing up. ....

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2004-10-11          98098

If this is happening, you are running WWAAYY to low throttle setting. Low RPM operation can damage your hydro pump. (Especially on a hill situation) There are many threads on this topic. ....

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2004-10-11          98104

Sometimes it's hard to remember when being used to driving cars and trucks that when you need more power we all push the gas petal down further. When running a hydro you have to do the oposite and not push it down so far so the engine can gain RPM and proceed up the hill. I've often found that it is best to get into a lower range(gear) before getting on a hill. ....

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2004-10-11          98112

I've had the engine almost conk out when I bounce or shift position in the seat - even with my seatbelt on. I know this is caused by the safty cutout. I've also had my BX23 suddenly roll off my tilted trailer when I shift into neutral to start it up. The brake seems to be pretty useless. I have to remember to start the engine THEN tip the trailer bed. ....

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2004-10-12          98224


1*I've also had my BX23 suddenly roll off my tilted trailer when I shift into neutral to start it up.
2*The brake seems to be pretty useless.
3*I have to remember to start the engine THEN tip the trailer bed.
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1*This is pretty dumb to have to basicaly release the brake in order to start the motor.
2*Why don't they have a foot pedal brake like in a car that you can step on to hold the tractor when you start the motor?
Netural should lock the transmission just like park does in a car.
3*This works ok with a trailer, but you can't tilt a hill.




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2004-10-12          98228

lbrown59,

The conditions you describe have another name for this and you need to set the rpms and/or conditions so the engine does not stall out.

What you are doing is call lugging the engine and diesel especially do not like to be lugged or loaded down beyond a certain point. They can carry a good bit more load than a comparable gas engine but when loaded to the point of stalling; this can damage the engine and cause unusual and excessive bearing wear and just plain old unneeded wear and tear on the engine.

Try to keep the rpms up in a range that allows the engine to recover easily and not get lugged down to a stall. ....

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2004-10-12          98229

1*This is pretty dumb to have to basicaly release the brake in order to start the motor.
2*Why don't they have a foot pedal brake like in a car that you can step on to hold the tractor when you start the motor?
Netural should lock the transmission just like park does in a car.
3*This works ok with a trailer, but you can't tilt a hill.

There is a pedal right over the treddel pedal which controls the brake. On the left side is the brake-lock for Parking. It is strong enough to hold the tractor in neutral on a hill or tilted trailer. ....

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2004-10-12          98231

I have a BX and nobody has hills like I have hills. I take my Kubota places that would make some of you guys cringe and it takes a licking. One thing that you must know is that the brakes aren't all that great when going down a steep hill in 2wd- even worse if you have a loader with stuff in it. When you go down hill or unload from a steep trailer try keeping it in 4x4 and you will see a big difference in braking power. This is a rerply for the braking part of this thread. Open that BX throttle up at least 3/4. ....

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2004-10-13          98243

The brake on mine doesn't have much holding power at all, whether its locked down or I'm actively stomping on it. When the tractor is out of neutral however it stays in place quite well. Do you think my brakes might need some work? ....

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2004-10-14          98334

Open that BX throttle up at least 3/4.
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How do you do that when the manusl says not to run it hard for the first 50 hours? ....

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2004-10-14          98335

There is a pedal right over the treddel pedal which controls the brake. On the left side is the brake-lock for Parking. It is strong enough to hold the tractor in neutral on a hill or tilted trailer.
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Mine don't seem to be.
I have to really watch that I'm not driving around with this brake on
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2004-10-14          98337

1*Try to keep the rpms up in a range that allows the engine to recover easily and not get lugged down to a stall.
2*Do you think my brakes might need some work?
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1*Would be nice if bx 23 had a tack ; what range would that be?
2*Don't know,any other opinions?
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2004-10-14          98344

Open that BX throttle up at least 3/4.
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How do you do that when the manusl says not to run it hard for the first 50 hours?

--throttle position doesn't necessarily mean hard use. Lugging is much "Harder" than reving.

There is a pedal right over the treddel pedal which controls the brake. On the left side is the brake-lock for Parking. It is strong enough to hold the tractor in neutral on a hill or tilted trailer.
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Mine don't seem to be. I have to really watch that I'm not driving around with this brake on

--My tractor will easily lock the tires. Also will hold quite nicely on a hill. Weight of 'hoe will probably have an impact on this, but the brake should at the least hold your tractor. If not, some adjustment is probably needed. (these aren't the power brakes from the 'ol Buick though. LOL) Just remember to dis-engage it when you start again. (Been there done that. LOL)

1*Would be nice if bx 23 had a tack ; what range would that be?

--3/4 throttle is a good place to start.

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2004-10-14          98345

The manual suggests you don't run at full throttle for the first fifty hours.

I took that to mean 90 percent throttle was ok. Just push the throttle all the way forward and pull it back an inch or so and run it there.

There is no tach. That implies to me that the whole thing is not very critical.

The foot brake on my BX felt mushy and didn't seem to be particularly effective too. Good thing it isn't needed much. ....

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2004-10-14          98346

Thank you AV8R and DRankin for your todays post.
Your replys were very helpful to me.
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2004-10-29          99451

I'm surprised that the brake on your BX doesn't hold more securely. I'm not sure of the design of the Kubota, but could there be a leak that is getting oil into the brake and reducing its effectiveness? ....

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2004-10-29          99466

Actually, the brakes run in an oil bath. ....

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2004-10-29          99483

Runs in an oil bath? Hmmm, guess that rules out the "oil on the brake" theory to explain poor holding power. :-) ....

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2004-11-09          100094

So I am gathering that the BX model's have inadequate brakes? Is this on the hydro only? I am not sure I would want to own a tractor with this issue. It's a hazzard waiting to happen! My Kubota brakes are emmensley strong! they will hold the machine tight on a fairly steep hill with a full load of dirt in the bucket. I assume it shouldn't be any other way. ....

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2004-11-09          100097

We've not been told of any problems with the BX brakes that I'm aware of. When we are delivering them they have to stop and hold the unit on our roll backs while we fasten them down. Naturally with a hydro the brakes are not used that much but the next time we get some of our higher houred ones in I'll have to go playing. ....

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2004-11-09          100119

I'm not sure I would call them weak.

The pedal is too tall and that makes it hard to reach and hard to put adequate pressure on it. ....

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2004-11-10          100134

I would have to agree with that. The brake pedal on BX machines is in an awkward position (not that I have a better suggestion). However, in my experinece it has plenty of holding power. Of course, with a hydro you only need the brake to hold your position on a slope or set the parking brake. The hydro tredal takes care of everything else. ....

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2004-11-10          100182

The owners manual has the adjustment for the brakes. ....

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