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 | dkheckmanl
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 134 Middleton, ID 
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2004-01-09 73500
I am looking at the JD 2210, Kubota 2230 & MF 2300 with FEL, MMM, & 48" or 50" tiller. I am not sure the K 2230 will handle the 48" tiller. Does anyone have a Kubota 2200 or 2230 with a 48" or 50" tiller and will the tractor handle it OK? I live in Idaho with some sandy/clay rocky soil. Also I read earlier this year of some hydraulic problems with the 2300. Anyone else with the MF 2300 had any problems with hydraulics? My other question is will these smaller tractors do a better job of finish mowing than the K 7610 or the JD 4115?
Dave in ID
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 | Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York 
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2004-01-09 73502
I do have a 2200BX with a 48" tiller on it as the fellow was swapping down, but I've sold a couple with the 42" and they all live in stoneland central NY. Kubota's mower deck is the same as the larger B-series decks for the most part and if you look at the drive system you will see with the double wide belts why people get years out of them. The BX is a suspended deck unlike on it's larger brothers on the B-series where it is a ground engaging deck. ....
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 | Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4297 Southwest MiddleTennessee
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2004-01-09 73509
In most cases a smaller dedicated mower, lawn tractor, lawn mower will do a better job. Smaller mower, less width, less scalping, and better manueverability.
A more in depth description of your planned uses for the tractor would be helpful in making a suggestion. There is a HUGE jump in price and capability beween the 2210 and the 4115. A big difference in construction. The BX2200 I personally do not like as it has no tachometer. To me that is a big short coming with respect to pto operations. Otherwise a very good machine.
I would think that if you live in Idaho, you would be using your tractor for snow removal/blowing. In that case I would go with the 4115. Can you make do with less tractor? Sure. But the 4115 gives you added weight, excellent hp., full cat 1 hitch, and a longer frame. You can run a 60" mower easily. ....
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| dkheckmanl
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 134 Middleton, ID
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2004-01-09 73592
Chief,
Thanks for the feedback. I would definitely prefer the bigger tractor but with only 2.5 acres I cannot justify or even afford one unless I go out and do some custom work. I just completed a new house and will be putting in 1 acre of landscaped yard of which .5 acre will be finished lawn. The other .5 acre will be beds and a vegetable garden. The remaining 1.5 acres is in sloping sage brush which I will probably be mowing occasionally. Snow removal is not a major factor since here in southern ID we get less than 24 inches a year.
Dave in Idaho ....
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 | bigpete
Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 117 Delaware
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2004-01-09 73594
Don't think you need the 4115...I will say that the JD 4115 will drive a 72" belly mower and none of the other CUTS or sub-CUTS will. The 4115 needs a lot of room to turn around, so all of the smaller compacts up to the JD 4110 will have a smaller turning radius/smaller "uncut" circle with a belly mower. On the other hand, the 4115 is clearly the heaviest, longest, and most powerful tractor on your list. From your choices, the 4115 is the best choice for open-field mowing and loader or implement work. Any of the sub-CUTS are more nimble belly mowers. ....
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 | 44trxfun
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 110 western NY
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2004-01-10 73611
I have a GC2300; haven't had any hydraulic problems, and haven't run a tiller on it (yet)... Good luck! ....
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| TractorFanMan
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1 Michigan
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2004-01-12 73775
The BX2200/BX2230 can handle a 50" tiller in most cases. There are several people I know here in Michigan who own them, love them and haven't any problem with the 50" tiller. ....
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| Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2004-01-12 73777
Big Pete, Kubota does go to the 72" decks on the B-7800-2710-2910 chassis. That is one of my personal favorites for it's truly compact size with a three range transmission for even better control with power speed options. I've never been impressed with having the heaviest tractor as I've seen to many tractors that were to heavy to give good performance both with power as well as fuel economy. The BX started the Sub-compact industry and they have a lot of experience with them from the past couple of years. The new models they added the most sought after items to the units to assure the owners satisfaction. The BX22-23 was not only the first built but is the ultimate home owner unit built. ....
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| bigpete
Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 117 Delaware
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2004-01-12 73782
Art, I should have offered that I am unfamilar with the details of the Kubota line above the 7500. Just never looked because I knew I wasn't going to buy anything that big. I'm pretty familiar with the Kubota BXs...at least I was while I was shopping heavily before I bought my 2210 a year ago. I could have thrown a blanket over the BX and the 2210 and chosen either one. The dealer was the final factor in my decision. I understand that K has improved some things beyond where they were with the 2200 when I shopped. It was hard enough to decide then... My only real point above was just to tout the smaller tractors as more maneuverable mowers than the bigger framed CUTS. Pete ....
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| Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2004-01-12 73791
The physical size of the 4115 actually falls in very close to the 27-2910 size. They need that extra wheel base to put the bigger 72" deck underneath and still be able to remove it. The flat deck on the Kubota I would not buy a tractor today that I have to get on and off and not have it. Kubota's done an excellent job with the flat deck, I've just done to many headers trying to dismount to like a hump in the center. ....
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 | kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2004-01-12 73796
The 4115 has a hump? Not much of one I'd wager. The one on my 4310 is, what, an inch high? If you're looking at hydrostatic transmissions it's more likely you'd trip over the oversized treadle pedal on the flat floor of the Kubota as opposed to the twin pedals on the 4115 that are well out of the way.
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| Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2004-01-12 73797
Yours is a few inches lower then on the 4115 Ken, I still catch the Deeres petals when getting off. Sorry but it must just be with the bell bottoms jeans I'm still wearing out of the 70's. ....
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2004-01-12 73799
Might be, Art, I've never been on a 4115. Hang on to those bell bottoms - I heard they're back! ....
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| Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2004-01-12 73803
Just joking! I have gotten spoiled over the past few years and when ever I get onto a older tractor I always seem to be catching my cuffs on a lever or petal. I think I'm going the other way in life as I always wore 36-34 pants. My wife got me up to 38-34 and some of those I think should be 40 but they slide right off and they are so long that they are catching everything for me except fish and women. I think it's my old six pack abs that have turned into a keg but not sure. ....
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2004-01-13 73868
I've looked at the picture of the JD 4110 on TractorPoints home page hundreds of time and I never noticed the transmission hump is RIGHT THERE. Shows how observant I can be :)
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-01-13 73869
Yup. There is a little hump, but at least there are no gear shift levers sticking out of it. I don't know how the 790 owners do it, maybe they have fewer knees than I do.
Not to be picky Ken, but the picture at the bottom of the page is a 4115.
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| kwschumm
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2004-01-13 73871
Are we looking at the same page? I'm talking about the page you get when you click the home button on TractorPoint. There's a picture of a 4110 at the top of the page (at least it has a 4110 decal on it). ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-01-13 73872
You are right. I was looking at the bottom of this page. ....
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