4110 staling
Green MT Jim
Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6 Vermont |
2004-10-24 99152
I have a 4110 and just started stalling a few days ago. My dealer told me to add a stabilizer and change the fuel filter. I did that and it isn't any better. If I let it run with the side panel off I can see that the resevoir (where the filter is) runs out of fuel. It appears that the fuel is not flowing from the tank fast enough to keep up with it. Any ideas?? Could there be a screen in the tank that is plugged? If so, can I resolve this on my own? Should I drain the tank? If so, what is the best way to do that.
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4110 staling
DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada Pics |
2004-10-24 99158
Did it suddenly get cold there at the same time the stalling problem emerged?
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4110 staling
lbrown59
Join Date: Posts: 1 |
2004-10-24 99159
I have been having a staling or cutting out problem with my BX 23 too.
Was using the Hoe and when I went to move the tractor it kept wanting to stal out no matter where I set the RPMs.
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harvey
Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1550 Moravia, NY Pics |
2004-10-24 99162
Is the fuel valve shut part way off? ....
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jedomon
Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4 |
2004-10-27 99361
I believe that the fuel reservoir should be full of gas all the time...it is a sealed system and the 4110 has an auto bleed feature (unlike earlier models) so that one does not have to bleed the fuel system after running out of fuel. If you recently ran it out of fuel and then refilled it I suppose its possible that the auto bleed system is not working correctly...bottom line is the reservoir should be full of fuel not air. ....
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beagle
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1333 Michigan Pics |
2004-10-27 99365
Make sure the fuel tank is venting properly. Try running it without the cap on and see if this improves the flow. If not, you have a fuel line blockage in the tank or the line.
If venting is the problem, replace the fuel cap, and try again. ....
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reason201
Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 91 Nebraska Pics |
2004-10-28 99426
It sounds like he might have a piece of debris in the tank floating around. If it runs for a while then quits and the reservoir is empty then refills after a bit it could be the debris is getting sucked down to cover the pick-up, then when the draw for fuel stops, the debris again floats and the reservoir refills.
Just a thought ....
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Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4297 Southwest MiddleTennessee Pics |
2004-10-28 99439
Drain and inspect the inside or the tank for any foreign material. If none is found; remove the hose from the tank to the fuel bowl and inspect it. Try blowing air thru it and if it intermittently stops up for no reason. The inside liner of the hose may be coming apart and intermittently blocking the hose filling the fuel bowl. Lastly, check and inspect the fuel cap. Ensure the little vent ball inside the cap rattles freely when you shake it. The cap vent may not be opening and a vaccum could build up and not allow fuel to the bowl. Just a few thoughts I figured to throw out there and check. You can never tell what is causing this without starting at the source and working your way back. Suspect anything. Good luck! ....
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DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada Pics |
2004-10-28 99444
Maybe the original poster could tell us what is going on......? ....
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Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4297 Southwest MiddleTennessee Pics |
2004-10-30 99517
Green MT Jim, can you bring us up to date as to where you are at with solving this problem?
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Green MT Jim
Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6 Vermont |
2004-11-06 99939
I'm back with a status. Unfortunately, I also had computer problems after posting the question. I drained the tank, inspected inside the tank (found nothing), blew air through the fuel line and it didn't seem to have any obstructions... Next I took a long piece of 14 gauge wire and I was able to go into the fuel tank, poke it into the top of the fuel line (1/4") and move it around. I found what appeared to be some gelling. I put a rag on a piece of pipe and wiped it up. I replaced everything, filled with fresh fuel with the JD Fuel conditioner. It has been running perfect since. I have put about 6 hours on it since.
On a side note: The opening in the bottom of the tank is less than 1/4" in diameter. Any idea why it is so small? Seems like if it was a bigger opening, this problem would be significantly reduced.
Thanks for all the help - Jim
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DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada Pics |
2004-11-06 99944
Another fuel additive success story!
Glad to hear you are back up and running.
I wondered if the fuel might have thickened due to seasonal temperature changes.
In terms of the small fittings, that engine only burns about 1/2 gallon of fuel per hour running flat out. A 1/4 inch orifice would drain the tank by gravity in a few minutes so it provides plenty of flow to the fuel pump.
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