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Jeff
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2000-07-15          17991

How does the John Deere implements compare with other implements,performance wise,for example how would a John Deere rotary cutter 513 compare with a Woods brand rotary cutter?I believe they are made by "Howard" implements, the same goes for a John Deere rotary tiller 660,my dealer told me the tiller was made by "Howard" which I believe is a company in Spain.

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2000-07-15          17994

I own a 4400 and a 660 tiller. It says on the serial number tag that it is made in Germany. all the bolts are metric. It is a good tiller, I had a 550 (made in France) that I purchased with my 955. I traded it in on this one. I think I preferred the 550 in my situation because it was easier to manuever but it did not quite cover the wheel. The 660 is a fine piece of machinery. The only thing I don't like is the rear door is too short. In a lot of my work I need to use gauge wheels and the rear door allows too much stuff to fly out. I just today added some mudflaps to the back and this allows a much safer work area since it won't kick out rocks. hope this helps. mike ....

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2000-07-16          17999

Turfman,
I really appreciate your reply and everyone else who has replied,I feel that I am talking to a bunch of specialists,there seems to be a lot of experience here.I may be asking you some more about my tiller when I actually get to use it(My wife has some yard work planned),since I am in the middle of cleaning this farm up.
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Jeff ....

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2000-07-16          18003

I looked at a 513 and a Bushog SQ600 squealer. The SQ600 appears to have heavier duty deck reinforcement and a much larger gearbox. The only drawback to the SQ600 is that its rubber shielding does not last very long when cutting big saplings. Apparently, Bushog has no chain upgrade for the shielding. ....

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2000-07-16          18007

Thanks Rob,
I appreciate your feedback.
Jeff
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2000-07-17          18034

Jeff - I can't speak for the other brands, but I the 513 cutter is pretty heavy duty for a light duty mower. I "mowed" an 8 or 10 inch diameter rock with mine on saturday - caught it with the front of the deck, popped it out, and ran it over. It nearly stalled out the tractor before it spit it out. I shut down and inspected the mower, expecting the worst, but no damage that I could find. Now I know how to make crushed stone for my driveway :)

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2000-07-17          18049

Darryl,
The guard with the chains on the front of my 513 is a bit of a nuisance,it perodically gets caught on small stumps or mounds of dirt depending what angle I am coming from.I am thinking about taking it off it gets in the way more than anything else.

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2000-07-17          18051

Jeff, I assume you are talking about removing the chain guard. I know a lot of people operate them without a guard (and I've even done it myself), but hope you realize how dangerous they can be. If you happen to accidentally run over a piece of metal, possibly even a wooden limb, it can be thrown forward with enough force to not only seriously injure or kill someone in the vicinity, but may destroy one of your tractor tires and/or damage something else on the bottom of the tractor. The very first day I used one without a guard, it shot a limb the size of my arm straight forward under the tractor without hitting anything, but with enough force that even starting that low, the limb didn't touch the ground until it about 75' in front of the tractor. So . . ., I'm not telling you not to do it; that's your business. I just hope you're making an informed decision. ....

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2000-07-18          18063

Jeff - Regarding the chain guard, mine stays on, and in fact I'm about to make a rear guard out of a piece of old conveyor belt. Even with the front guard on I've had smalls bits of rock hit me while on the tractor. I also use the chain as a visual guide for adjusting the height of the front of the deck when mowing, which I have to do fairly often when mowing my woods roads and paths. I haven't had it get in the way yet. I mow my "lawn" with my 513, and want to keep flying debris to a minimum. Even with the chain guard on, I don't allow anyone outdoors while I'm mowing the lawn. ....

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2000-07-18          18065

Darryl, I don't know what experience you may have had with making guards for your brush hog, but 5 years ago, I made front and rear guards from belting material for mine, and I made them hang down too far and too close to the housing and when they folded under, the blades tore them up. So, I made my own chain guards that served the purpose, but since it was my first try, I did a pretty sloppy job. Last year, I bought a new brush hog, tried the belting material again and it didn't last long. So a couple of weeks ago, I made my own chain guards both front and rear for this brush hog; much better job this time and I think these will last. The belting material is better than nothing, but the chains are a lot better. ....

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2000-07-18          18077

The chain guard stays on,after reading your posts and thinking some about the feedback I have gotten from all of you, I thought it would be wise to leave it on for safetys sake,a friend I work with was telling me about his uncle years ago working for the DOH in Ohio,he was mowing the median and the mower picked up a stick and hit him on the back of his neck,he made it to the front door of someones house and dropped dead at the front door with a broken neck.My friend is very wise and that was one of things he has mentioned to me before when we were talking about tractors etc in the past.
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2000-07-21          18167

Bird - thank's for the words of wisdom relating to mower deflectors. I don't really use my 513 that much, so hopefully I can get at least a year or 2 out of a rubber rear deflector. I'd make a chain one, but don't think I have the proper tools (no bolt cutter or welder).

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