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 | Mark B
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4 New York 
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2001-11-29 33535
I am looking for a crank for a Ford 1910 with a Shibaura model T853A diesel. Any help or suggestions on where I may find a crank would be greatly appreciated for a winter project
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2001-12-02 33592
I don't know if this is either accurate or helpful, but you might be able to broaden the search--I imagine for a used crank. I hope a new one could just be ordered from a dealer.
Somewhere I heard somebody say they rebuilt a 1500 or maybe it was a 1510, and used a 1700(10) crank because they are the same crank. It's not uncommon for a manufacturer to design a series of engines that use the same crank and vary the displacements through different sized cylinder bores. It might be a good idea to get a part number for the crank and search for the part number rather than tractor make and model. Cross-references are available that may lead your search into a larger number of makes and models. Even then, some part numbers are different only due to some insignificant detail that would make no difference to using a part on a different engine. Of course, these things aren't cross-referenced in books, but really good partsmen have incredible cross-reference tables in their heads.
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 | Peters
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3034 Northern AL
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2001-12-02 33597
I am assuming that you are looking for a used crank. As a starting point I would on Farm and country.com. Thye ahve a chain of stores and a wrecking yard in the mid west. Their machine shop remanufactures blocks and cranks. Thier prices are used as the bible in most tractor wrecking yards I have encountered. If you get a price out of them then you can know if others are giving you a good or bad price.
When I was looking for a block for an old Oliver Super 55 they were the only source that I could find. ....
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| Mark B
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4 New York
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2001-12-07 33697
Thanks for the replys, The dealer is quite expensive and Farm and Country couldn;t help me either. I
guess my next step is to cross reference with othet Tractors. Any other ideas
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2001-12-08 33703
You might try NH dealers in Canada or with Shibaura in Japan if the Shibaura & NH parts numbers cross-reference to take advantage of the exchange rate. However, there would be transportation costs and there may be distributor arrangements or taxation that wipes out any advantage.
This sort of thing is a gray market idea. The risk is that there's no dealer support or warranty, and a dealer may refuse to work on a tractor that has gray market parts. In general, I favour supporting domestic distributors and manufacturers. It would be nice to believe that manufacturers lower their retail prices when their costs of imported parts decrease due to the exchange rate, but I don't really believe it.
I believe you tried a used parts dealer. I think most salvage yards are hooked into a locator network, similar to auto parts. I don't know if Canadian salvage yards are hooked into the network, but there are some sizable Canadian salvage yards on the web.
Without knowing what's wrong with the crank, I'll note that most anything can be fixed, but often at unrealistic prices. I've got a vague recollection that I've heard of things like crank journals being refaced and then turned to standard specs. If that sort of thing works at all, it would be pretty specialized and expensive work.
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| Peters
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2001-12-08 33711
Like Tom I think it would be helpful to know what is wrong with the crank. Apart from breaking it in half almost anything can be fixed. Also let us know what area of the country you are in as I can recommend some machine works in certain areas.
There can be sizable saving working the Canadian exchange. Some thing have no duty across the border and if you are close a short stay may allow you to bring back the crank duty free.
There are some grey tractor parts links, see below. Most of these dealers will know wht the 1910 engine correlates to in the Shibaura line. ....
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| Mark B
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4 New York
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2001-12-09 33714
The crank is cracked in two. The worst case scenario! I live in Western New York South of Buffalo close to Fort Erie Ontario via The Peace Bridge. Any help or information about Canadian or any other dealers or salvage yards would be appreciated.
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2001-12-09 33718
Dang! That's bad news!
The NH corporate site at http://www.newholland.com/na/dealers/web_sites.asp gives a list of Ontario dealers. I think it used to be a much nicer ‘click on a map and give a distance and find every dealer within a radius, but maybe it was at JD corporate.
Here are a couple of leads on Canadian salvage yards. http://www.fawcett.cc/ http://www.atis.net/NONUSASalvage.shtml. Somehow I think there is a very well known yard not too far from you around Kitchener or maybe as far as London that I’m missing. The key to whether Canadian salvage yards are useful is whether they are hooked into a North American wide locator network. If they are, then the searches you’ve already done likely would have found a used crank in Canada.
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| Mark B
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2002-01-08 34373
Thanks to all who helped! Ended up buying a new one from Ford. Aprox $1800.00 ....
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